Python List is Not Dead

[Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer]

Hey all,

I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org) these
last times.

I think that it definitely lacks some of the joys of the mailing list:

1/ Categories

The discussion has fixed categories. No channel for fun posts, project
releases or musings.

2/ Ui

Good luck getting to the bottom of big threads. Hello JS!

PS. You can but it's not intuitive.

3/ Quality

I find great posts here and there on the mailing list. I can't seem to find
great posts over there.

Just sharing my POV. I like the mailing list ^^,

Kind Regards,

Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
about <https://compileralchemy.github.io/> | blog
<https://www.pythonkitchen.com>
github <https://github.com/Abdur-RahmaanJ>
Mauritius

[Schimon Jehudah]

Abdur-Rahmaan. Good afternoon!

I think, that if project Discourse would want to preserve and increase
its popularity, then it should realize XMPP PubSub to communicate and
manage posts, which is what project Libervia will do in near future.

I use BitMessage, Email, LXMF, MQTT, and XMPP to communicate messsages,
BBS, BitTorrent, eDonkey2000 and Gnutella to transfer files, and I
recently have started to use Gemini and Gopher.

HTML sites, with JS, are almost always result in wasting of time, and
life is better without HTML browsers.

I do not use HTML browsers anymore.

Best regards,
Schimon

On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 14:52:23 +0400

Post by Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
Hey all,
I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org)
these last times.
1/ Categories
The discussion has fixed categories. No channel for fun posts,
project releases or musings.
2/ Ui
Good luck getting to the bottom of big threads. Hello JS!
PS. You can but it's not intuitive.
3/ Quality
I find great posts here and there on the mailing list. I can't seem
to find great posts over there.
Just sharing my POV. I like the mailing list ^^,
Kind Regards,
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
about <https://compileralchemy.github.io/> | blog
<https://www.pythonkitchen.com>
github <https://github.com/Abdur-RahmaanJ>
Mauritius

[dn]

Post by Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
Hey all,
I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org) these
last times.
1/ Categories
The discussion has fixed categories. No channel for fun posts, project
releases or musings.
2/ Ui
Good luck getting to the bottom of big threads. Hello JS!
PS. You can but it's not intuitive.

+1

Also, as a conversation develops, irrelevant posts which don't add
utility can be deleted making review easier.

Issues/complaints raised about any communication medium are rarely
solved by moving to some other. They typically relate to the way humans
use the facility. The gossip-side of social media is an evident race for
the bottom. Many (semi-)professional channels are infected by peoples'
assumptions of similarity. Also, do I need to discuss the way so many
people ask for help but give minimum assistance to their hoped-for
respondents? https://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ...

[Cameron Simpson]

Post by Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org)
these last times.

FYI, it has a very good "mailing list" mode. I use it that was >90% of
the time, and file both posts from Discourse and posts from python-list
into my "python" mail folder.

[Chris Green]

Post by Cameron Simpson

Post by Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org)
these last times.

FYI, it has a very good "mailing list" mode. I use it that was >90% of
the time, and file both posts from Discourse and posts from python-list
into my "python" mail folder.

Yes, it's the one saving grace of a Discourse forum, you can use it by
E-Mail and it behaves quite nicely with a text mode E-Mail client such
as mutt so you can keep threads separate, follow sub-threads, etc.

Not quite as good as this list gatewayed to usenet though, there's
really nothing so good as usenet for proper discourse (!).

[Erik Max Francis]

Post by Chris Green
Yes, it's the one saving grace of a Discourse forum, you can use it by
E-Mail and it behaves quite nicely with a text mode E-Mail client such
as mutt so you can keep threads separate, follow sub-threads, etc.
Not quite as good as this list gatewayed to usenet though, there's
really nothing so good as usenet for proper discourse (!).

Hear, hear!

[Grant Edwards]

Post by Chris Green

Post by Cameron Simpson

Post by Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org)
these last times.

FYI, it has a very good "mailing list" mode. I use it that was >90% of
the time, and file both posts from Discourse and posts from python-list
into my "python" mail folder.

Yes, it's the one saving grace of a Discourse forum, you can use it by
E-Mail and it behaves quite nicely with a text mode E-Mail client such
as mutt so you can keep threads separate, follow sub-threads, etc.
Not quite as good as this list gatewayed to usenet though, there's
really nothing so good as usenet for proper discourse (!).

Don't forget you can also read this list (and thousands of others) via
the NNTP server at news.gmane.io. There really is no better way to
read lists that with a good news client.

--
Grant

[Mohammadreza Saveji]

thank you Mr. Jahangir.
you are expert in python.

On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:28 AM Cameron Simpson via Python-list <

Post by Cameron Simpson

Post by Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org)
these last times.

FYI, it has a very good "mailing list" mode. I use it that was >90% of
the time, and file both posts from Discourse and posts from python-list
into my "python" mail folder.
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[Kevin M. Wilson]

Excuse please, my failure. As I have not been following this discussion, why is the subject "Python List Is NOT Dead" a subject for discussion? Has the list been moving towards closing?
KMW

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On Saturday, December 28, 2024 at 05:37:34 AM MST, Mohammadreza Saveji via Python-list <python-***@python.org> wrote:

thank you Mr. Jahangir.
you are expert in python.

On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:28 AM Cameron Simpson via Python-list <

Post by Cameron Simpson

Post by Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org)
these last times.

FYI, it has a very good "mailing list" mode. I use it that was >90% of
the time, and file both posts from Discourse and posts from python-list
into my "python" mail folder.
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[Cameron Simpson]

Post by Kevin M. Wilson
Excuse please, my failure. As I have not been following this discussion, why is the subject "Python List Is NOT Dead" a subject for discussion? Has the list been moving towards closing?

No, the list's still around. But there was a significant migration to
https://discuss.python.org/ which is a web forum running Discourse some
time back, so python-list is a lot quieter these days.

[Mats Wichmann]

Post by Cameron Simpson

Post by Kevin M. Wilson
Excuse please, my failure. As I have not been following this
discussion, why is the subject "Python List Is NOT Dead" a subject for
discussion? Has the list been moving towards closing?

No, the list's still around. But there was a significant migration to
https://discuss.python.org/ which is a web forum running Discourse some
time back, so python-list is a lot quieter these days.

It's the somewhat parallel python-dev list that went away. This list
still exists, but is now pretty low volume.